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Amnon82 · 2010-02-14 23:03:47

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WARNING WILL ONLY INSTALL ON VIRTUALBOX OR WITH NVIDIA DRIVER FOR i686--x86_64 IS GOOD
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KDEMOD 4.4.0 DOESN'T HAVE ALL LANG-PGKS YET SO TRIBE MIGHT FAIL DUE TO NON EXISTING LANGPKS. PLEASE CHECK IF YOUR LANGUAGE-PKG IS ON THE SERVER. IF TRIBE CRASHES AT L10N STAGE RESTART TRIBE AND SELECT US_EN THIS TIME. YOU CAN INSTALL YOUR LANGUAGE ALWAYS LATER.

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Roadmap
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* 2010.03.18 - alpha5 [panora] (Minimal-Edition only)
* 2010.05.XX - beta1 (Minimal and DVD)
* 2010.10.XX - rc1 (Minimal and DVD)
* 2010.11.XX - final [chakra-2010.11] (Minimal and DVD)

more ...

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Chakra-Minimal Development Release [Panora-Preview3] Build: 2010-02-14

We past crazy days. KDEmod 4.4.0 release was a bumpy ride. Lot's of people posted
many troubles updating from chakra-alpha4 to that new release, so Manuel and I took
some time and started to work on livescripts2 again. It wasn't easy and we almost
jumped out of the window but we managed to keep grounded.

Our next stable release will be called Panora and will be out by March. This is the
third preview of this release. Internally we tested the other two which where
broken so we didn't released it for the public. After many tests we have a new
development release we can share. Please test this image and report back any
bugs you can find so we can have a new stable release soon.

With love,
Phil Miller & Manuel Tortosa- Chakra-ISO-Builder

System Requirements:

* a Intel Pentium II or higher processor for the i686 version, or
* a 64Bit-capable processor for the x86_64 version
* 384MiB of RAM for running the live system and 512MiB of RAM for the installation (the more the better)
* around 3 Gib of available hard disk space (the more the better)
* a screen capable of 1024 x 600 or higher resolution
* a reasonably fast internet connection, e.g. no modem (you wont have fun with this)

Most noticeable changes & additions since Alpha4:

Features:

* Kernel-2.6.32.7 with lzma support
* Xorg-Server 1.7.4.901
* KDEmod 4.4.0
* Chakra tools updated (aqpm2, shaman2, chase)
* Catalyst support temp. dropped
* NVidia-190 and NVidia legancy series are the only propertary drivers atm
* added lots of new languages to bootmenu
* using ARM state (2010.02.14)

Build notice:

* fixed all font issues
* updated addedpackages file to hit 700 MB target
* added rekonq and quassel
* fixed double notification issue
* fixed parted isssue
* fixed antialasing issues

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i686

chakra-i686-2010-02-14-panora-preview3.iso (696 MB)
chakra-i686-2010-02-14-panora-preview3.md5

Known bugs

* offline mirror routine broken (fixed in git)
* live-mode mirrorlist points to wrong mirror url (already fixed in git)
*After install edit your /etc/pacman.conf by changing kdemod-testing to kdemod-core and delete kdemod-tools
*For using Shaman2, edit the last line in aqpm.conf to: DbOrder=kdemod-core, kdemod-extragear, kdemod-playground, community, core, extra
Arch=x86_64/i686 Choose your correct version

Tips

* Start tribe with kdesu tribe (password is "root"]
* update tribe with sudo pacman -Sy kdemod-tribe kdemod-tribe-debug
* If needed restart tribe with kdesu or press ALT+N to get to next page (marble page makes troubles in i686)
* try new tribe with sudo pacman -Rd kdemod-partitionmanager kdemod-tribe-debug --noconfirm && sudo pacman -Sy chakra-tribe chakra-tribe-debug
* If you want to use it with USB-Stick follow this guide

Test-Results

chakra-i686-2010-02-14-panora-preview3 by Phil Miller

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x86_64

chakra-x86_64-2010-02-14-panora-preview3.iso (699 MB)
chakra-x86_64-2010-02-14-panora-preview3.md5

Known bugs

* offline mirror routine broken (fixed in git)
* live-mode mirrorlist points to wrong mirror url (already fixed in git)
*After install edit your /etc/pacman.conf by changing kdemod-testing to kdemod-core and delete kdemod-tools
*For using Shaman2, edit the last line in aqpm.conf to: DbOrder=kdemod-core, kdemod-extragear, kdemod-playground, community, core, extra
Arch=x86_64/i686 Choose your correct version

Tips

* Start tribe with sudo tribe
* update tribe with sudo pacman -Sy kdemod-tribe kdemod-tribe-debug
* try new tribe with sudo pacman -Rd kdemod-partitionmanager kdemod-tribe-debug --noconfirm && sudo pacman -Sy chakra-tribe
* If you want to use it with USB-Stick follow this guide

Test-Results

chakra-x86_64-2010-02-14-panora-preview3 by Manuel Tortosa

djszapi · 2010-02-14 23:45:24

Great work! All my respect is yours !

sHyLoCk · 2010-02-15 03:10:15

That looks really gorgeous. Trying it out.

surfed · 2010-02-15 03:39:30

Tribe crashes after accepting license:
http://pastebin.ca/1796873

also if second monitor is connected on ati card kde fails to launch and cycles back to login screen

in vbox all is fine

Last edited by surfed (2010-02-15 03:40:49)

abveritas · 2010-02-15 04:53:11

i686:
On Laptop with Intel video card:
Clicking on tribe: hangs on license
Just typing tribe from the Konsole: reaches disk stage, no hdd detected
Typing kdesu tribe: hangs at license or marble
Tried with USB & CD

On Desktop with Nvidia card:
Just tribe from the konsole: Crashes at marble
sudo tribe: install finished, some problems accepting the first license, had to select disagree first, before I could select agree.
Installed with USB, network connected, mirror-list setup checked, American-English.

Amnon82 · 2010-02-15 09:19:04

New tribe version out there:

* update tribe with sudo pacman -Sy kdemod-tribe kdemod-tribe-debug
* If needed restart tribe with kdesu or press ALT+N to get to next page (marble page makes troubles in i686)
* try new tribe with sudo pacman -Rd kdemod-partitionmanager kdemod-tribe-debug --noconfirm && sudo pacman -Sy chakra-tribe chakra-tribe-debug

abveritas · 2010-02-15 14:39:20

i686 on laptop:
Tried both methods, update Tribe, tribe hangs at license after using form konsole: tribe, sudo tribe or kdesu tribe, Alt N causes crash or error message and still hangs
Installing new tribe, crashes at license with any of the above methods.

Amnon82 · 2010-02-15 16:05:32

I have to rebuild the marble pkgs in i686 since not only I have the problem. On my netbook also with intel gfx it sometimes work, some not all. You have other pcs like nvidia gfx? Have to try it on some of my pcs at work. Did you tried to start it as normal via desktop-file? x86_64 seems to be more stable since I did the pkgs there. I'll see if a rebuild of marble will help us in i686.

New tribe seems not to work since new partition-page isn't finished yet. It is only to test if the new page integrates well into our installer.

We have to find out if only i686 has the marble problems or x86_64 does the same on some configurations. For that please post back a proper test-result: http://chakra-project.org/temp/prerelea … all.passed

abveritas · 2010-02-15 18:39:53

x86_64 on laptop:
Absolute no problems, did not do any updates to Tribe, started by clicking on "install" on the desktop, no crashes, no hang-ups. Installed from cd.

abveritas · 2010-02-15 19:18:24

In both versions i686 & x86_64 pacman.conf & aqpm.conf have kdemod-testing and kdemod-tools enabled, will need to change to kdemod-core and delete kdemod-tools before pacman -Syu

Amnon82 · 2010-02-15 21:43:36

Anke thx for the report. Fixed that for next build.

chakra-tribe is not usable for installation. Just a compile proof to see if that works atm. Also I'm testing if my conflict/replaces string working so we can test this tribe version in development with any new Panora-Preview build.

We found some bugs so there will be some xdeltas coming up soon

Amnon82 · 2010-02-15 23:54:02

I did some rebuilds of kdemod-tribe:

Code:

sudo pacman -Sy kdemod-tribe kdemod-tribe-debug

... this might fix the marble-crash in i686.

Amnon82 · 2010-02-16 07:28:50

The new mkinitcpio breaks larch7:

http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php? … 53#p709053

Michael Towers will adjust larch7-live hooks when he finds time.
Our code of larch-live can be found here:

http://git.chakra-project.org/chakra/li … larch-live

This means live-scripts1 are out of business for good. I updated my host-system with mkinitcpio and didn't found any errors yet.

Amnon82 · 2010-02-16 20:38:07

I hope I fixed the udev-boot bug in larch7 larch-live pkg. Also Dario managed to get a working tribe with new partitioner out there. I just finished with qtmod 4.6.2 so more stability will be there. A new ISO is in making so stay tuned for a image or xdelta-patch.

once · 2010-02-17 14:18:09

xdelta file, when?

abveritas · 2010-02-17 16:59:02

Installed x86_64 on 3 more PC's, with free & non-free drivers, no problems at all.
Tried one more Intel (Toshiba Laptop) i686, got to Marble once, no further.

florut · 2010-02-17 18:25:28

Chakra-ISO-Testing - 2010-02-17

Tester: Florent

Image: chakra-x86_64-2010-02-14-panora-preview3.iso
Usb-Bootable: yes
Used-Media: USB flash drive (Corsair)
Bootmenu-Selection: french/free drivers
Forced-Vesa: no
Propertary driver: no
Booted into KDE SC: yes
Right Driver found: I guess...
Right resolution: yes (1366x768)
Sound muted: yes, "speaker" at level 0
Started Tribe with: sudo tribe from console || exact same result with tribe icon on desktop
Marble-Page: no problems here
Partiton-Page: no problems here
Mirror-Detection: not set
Network-Connection: yes
Offline-tested: yes
Online-tested: no
Installprogress-Page: (Error message at 93%: ) Installation failed! Error in Postinstall script. See log for more details. Tribe will now quit, pls check installation logs in /tmp (here they are)
kdemod-l10n:
Config-Users-Page:
Config-Root-Page:
Bootloader-Page:
Tribe-Closing:
Reboot:
Installed system:
KDM-Background:

LIVECD use remark:
Rekonq uses an ugly GTK-like "browse" window when clicking on a "browse" button to upload a file ????????

Last edited by florut (2010-02-17 18:28:41)

abveritas · 2010-02-17 18:57:22

Did you check if your language pack is on the server? Maybe retry and choose us_en

florut · 2010-02-17 21:12:56

Hm. I would like to update my test report. I tried many more options.

This is all about this image:
Image: chakra-x86_64-2010-02-14-panora-preview3.iso
The report is all the same as previous exept for:

Usb-Bootable: yes thanks to Lili USB creator
Install-progress: Installprogress-Page: (Error message at 93%: ) Installation failed! Error in Postinstall script. See log for more details. Tribe will now quit, pls check installation logs in /tmp (here they are)

So update with a new one:

Usb-Bootable: yes thanks to isohybrid and dd
Bootmenu-Selection: french/free drivers
Started Tribe with: sudo tribe from console
Install-progress: fine
Reboot: does not automatically reboot after tribe end
Installed system: boots fine until it's KDM time to boot; then, i'm facing a blank screen

Usb-Bootable: yes thanks to isohybrid and dd
Bootmenu-Selection: french/proprietary drivers (see my signature for my hardwr)
Started Tribe with: sudo tribe from console
Marble-Page: en_US selected / english language
Live-cd : boots fine until it's KDM time to boot; then, i'm facing a blank screen

Usb-Bootable: yes thanks to isohybrid and dd
Bootmenu-Selection: American/free drivers
Started Tribe with: sudo tribe from console
Marble-Page: en_US selected / english language
Install-progress: fine
Reboot: does not automatically reboot after tribe end
Installed system: boots fine until it's KDM time to boot; then, i'm facing a blank screen

I also tried to remove xorg.conf, but i face black screen with white artefacts.

I'm not familiar with nvidia cards but it seems the problem come from there...

Last edited by florut (2010-02-17 21:24:04)

abveritas · 2010-02-17 21:35:19

For nvidia you need the non-free drivers. So maybe try that with en_US?

florut · 2010-02-17 22:14:27

I already did, see my test reports (if it's not clear, please tell me)

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florut · 2010-02-18 00:04:21

any clue how is it possible that my video card is working on live-cd session, and not after install ??
I've the same problem with internet drivers.

Last edited by florut (2010-02-18 00:11:09)

abveritas · 2010-02-18 00:17:04

Usb-Bootable: yes thanks to isohybrid and dd
Bootmenu-Selection: french/proprietary drivers (see my signature for my hardwr)
Started Tribe with: sudo tribe from console
Marble-Page: en_US selected / english language
Live-cd : boots fine until it's KDM time to boot; then, i'm facing a blank screen

Usb-Bootable: yes thanks to isohybrid and dd
Bootmenu-Selection: American/free drivers
Started Tribe with: sudo tribe from console
Marble-Page: en_US selected / english language
Install-progress: fine
Reboot: does not automatically reboot after tribe end
Installed system: boots fine until it's KDM time to boot; then, i'm facing a blank screen

The first one is installed with the right driver, but it might be a problem that French was selected for the bootmenu.
Second one has the wrong driver selected.

florut · 2010-02-18 00:36:04

Sorry... something is missing: if I select non-free drivers (any language), the live-cd do not even start (blank screen instead of KDM start). So I cannot try.

THIS problem is not chakra-related (I suppose), but still I would like to understand how the live cd could work perfectly with free drivers, and after installing it is not.
Does tribe install non-free drivers no matter the choice at bootup?

abveritas · 2010-02-18 03:27:52

Sorry, my bad, I just assumed when I saw GeForce, it would take the nvidia 190.53 driver. I tried to look up your card, and see if Nvidia supports it under Linux, but I can't find a definite answer. The way I understand Chakra checks hardware, is first look for the need for non-free drivers. So if this card does not support nvidia 190.53, it could be Chakra installs that one anyway, maybe someone here can shed some light on that.
But did you check KDE Info Center > OpenGL, to see how your card was configured in the LiveCD, after starting up with the free drivers? You might have to use those settings after the install.

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