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Teho

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From: Finland

Registered: 2010-01-16

Posts: 159

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There are different interpretations of ACTA.

That doesn't mean you can just make things up. The Ars articles I linked give a good outlook on how ACTA is misinterpreted. If you say that ACTA is going to bring software patents to EU you must have somekind of evidence or  sources to support your claims. So far you have answered to my criticism with only denial and I find that downright rude.

merez

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Registered: 2011-02-02

Posts: 30

Re: Chakra-Project start page is offensive

There are different interpretations of ACTA.

That doesn't mean you can just make things up. The Ars articles I linked give a good outlook on how ACTA is misinterpreted. If you say that ACTA is going to bring software patents to EU you must have somekind of evidence or  sources to support your claims. So far you have answered to my criticism with only denial and I find that downright rude.

If you can guarantee that the interpretation, quoted by you, will reflect the legal steps by ACTA. I will admit to the error.

Teho

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From: Finland

Registered: 2010-01-16

Posts: 159

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If you can guarantee that the interpretation, quoted by you, will reflect the legal steps by ACTA.

Just to be clear: there is nothing in ACTA which will change whether software ideas are patentable or not. The text states this explicitly:

ARTICLE 1.3: RELATION TO STANDARDS CONCERNING THE AVAILABILITY AND SCOPE OF INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY RIGHTS
1. This Agreement shall be without prejudice to provisions governing the availability, acquisition, scope, and maintenance of intellectual property rights contained in a Party’s law.
2. This Agreement does not create any obligation on a Party to apply measures where a right in intellectual property is not protected under the laws and regulations of that Party.

ACTA introduce them.

You said it like it is a truth not a probability and you think it holds even though the law explicitly says that it doesn't affect the software patent law? I don't quite undestand your logic... No matter how you see it that qualifies as hyperbole as you don't have any proof (or do you?).

merez

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Registered: 2011-02-02

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No matter how you see it that qualifies as hyperbole as you don't have any proof (or do you?).

O.K. I admit to the error. I only quote interpretations that i read on polish sites. If I remember not all parts of ACTA are declassified. Time will tell, for now I have to admit you're right.

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xfkubus

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From: Vienna

Registered: 2012-01-30

Posts: 14

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Thank you for the open discussion on the important issue. I think it's great when people do it thoughtfully.

I hope I see most of you at 11th of February on the demonstrations in Europe. Together against ACTA.

Cheers,
Chris

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abveritas

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From: GA, USA

Registered: 2010-01-11

Posts: 6,051

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Is ACTA already surpassed again by yet another attempt?
http://www.webpronews.com/exclusive-sea … ip-2012-02

gekko

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Registered: 2012-02-04

Posts: 47

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Okay, look...

This is not a problem specific to any on nation, but rather one that is global in character. I've come to believe that the entire western world is being run by giant blocks of money (international banking cartels), and they really don't give a damn what you and i think about anything. If voting changed anything they would make it illegal. The US is more culpable simply because we're the most propagandized and therefore brainwashed country in the world. I've been all over the world and it's here that people are the most deeply asleep. Nothing is going to change until folks wake up, and even then if you think voting is going to change anything you're kidding yourself.

Teho

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From: Finland

Registered: 2010-01-16

Posts: 159

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The US is more culpable simply because we're the most propagandized and therefore brainwashed country in the world. I've been all over the world and it's here that people are the most deeply asleep. Nothing is going to change until folks wake up, and even then if you think voting is going to change anything you're kidding yourself.

No, I think it's you who seriously need to wake up. You could first take a good look at Asian and African contries... like North-Korea for starters.

No contry is perfect but you have to admit that when it comes to quality of life and freedom of expression Western civilization quite simply squashes everything else in comparison. These laws are nothing compared to what China and Iran have for example.

gekko

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Registered: 2012-02-04

Posts: 47

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The US is more culpable simply because we're the most propagandized and therefore brainwashed country in the world. I've been all over the world and it's here that people are the most deeply asleep. Nothing is going to change until folks wake up, and even then if you think voting is going to change anything you're kidding yourself.

No, I think it's you who seriously need to wake up. You could first take a good look at Asian and African contries... like North-Korea for starters.

No contry is perfect but you have to admit that when it comes to quality of life and freedom of expression Western civilization quite simply squashes everything else in comparison. These laws are nothing compared to what China and Iran have for example.

You misunderstand me. I'm talking about the nation most guilty of some of the bad shit taking place in the world... including things like internet censorship. That would be the US, simply because the people who live in it are either a) okay with it or b) too propagandized to care. Add that to the fact that the US armed forces are the enforcement arm of the Global Powers That Be. If the US citizenry would decide as a group that they no longer want to be that enforcement arm (and stop spending every damn penny of the national treasury on the military machine) it would all be over... if that citizenry was willing to do what it took. It's too late to change anything in the political arena, because the politicians are 100% controlled by the giant blocks of money.

Alejandro Nova

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From: Santiago, Chile

Registered: 2009-10-12

Posts: 444

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The difference between letting private corporations run censorship and repressive systems, and have a government running them for you, is becoming smaller and smaller...